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Baz
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posted 17 March 2002 12:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
OK, I finally mentioned to get the lizard from planescape torment in D2
BUT... he looked REALLY screwed up! Here are the problems :
1. he looked really ugly (I think a palette problem)
2. he had a white line above his head
3. I only made an attack animation, and I replaced it with the quill bear attack animation, but when he attacked, it looked like he jumped to the upper-right (I think an offset problem)

plz help me with all these problems

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 17 March 2002 12:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
This is due to improper conversions...did you follow the conversion tutorial? Can you send me one of your animations for me to look at?

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Baz
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posted 17 March 2002 12:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
I already did

PS: you should really get MSN

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Baz
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posted 17 March 2002 13:00     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
and... I has a grey shadow just like the iron golem first got (I thought by you )

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posted 17 March 2002 13:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
The irongolem was originally started by me but Badasswerewolf finished it(and did a very good job too).

Now, as for your problem, first you did not make the animation endlessly loop. Also, the background layer is slightly smaller than your conversion's frame size and thus, you will see small lines outside that. Use a much larger background layer to blend the animation over it.

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Baz
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posted 17 March 2002 13:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
I thought the layer had to be just as big as the biggest height and width... but I can make it 300x300 if I want?
And what about the shadows?

PS: why don't you get MSN?

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posted 17 March 2002 13:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
OK, I got that white-line problem fixed now.
But there are still some things:
1. I want the lizard a little darker, coz in the game he's very light
2. remove shadows
3. offsets (what is the best way to get offsets for Black Isle-animations?)

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posted 17 March 2002 15:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
"I want the lizard a little darker, coz in the game he's very light"

Change the pallettes...

"2. remove shadows"

Make shadows transparent.

"3. offsets (what is the best way to get offsets for Black Isle-animations?)"

Trial and error. Hmm, can you send me all the animations of your lizard, maybe I can play around with him.

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posted 17 March 2002 23:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
1. Now I gotta learn how to change palettes...
2. I'll look at it
3. I've only got the attack1 animation, I'll send him as soon as I've got a nice palette and no shadows.

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posted 17 March 2002 23:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
No, you don't need to look for a pallette, just go to Animation Properties-->Global Pallette and edit the background to be 170,170,170. And no need to send me that attack1 animation, you already gave it to me and I fixed it all for you.

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Baz
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posted 18 March 2002 06:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
OK, I've got the lizard now Now to get the offsets
If the offset for attack1 is X-70 Y50, will the offset from attack2 also be X-70 Y50? Or do all the animations have their own offsets?

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More many monsters each animation has its own offsets ..
and that IS a pain in you know what ...

Just a supposition,
using Gamani, i reposition the animation to make them fit in the smallest rectangle needed, every frames centerd. Coulmd i use the famous formulas for calculating offsets from D1 monsters ( hope i'm clear ) ?

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posted 18 March 2002 09:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
"OK, I've got the lizard now Now to get the offsets
If the offset for attack1 is X-70 Y50, will the offset from attack2 also be X-70 Y50? Or do all the animations have their own offsets?"

Don't bother calculating, you will need to do trial and error. READ Nefarius' tutorial...

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Baz
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posted 18 March 2002 09:53     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
Hey Apocalypse, when I get the original image, and I double-click on a frame, I see X and Y offset from that frame. Are these the perfect offsets, did you already test that?
Oh man... I would really like to know how Blizzard got their offsets

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posted 18 March 2002 13:08     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Like I said, READ Nefarius' guide on this...

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