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Axalon
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posted 06 January 2002 21:00     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
Does anyone remember the game 'Darkstone'? ... it was an ok game, but there were a couple cool animations in it, like the Mystical Wyverns and the dragon Drakk ... I was wonderering, would those animations be compatible with D2? Meaning as to add those animations into a mode I'm trying to make ... there probably incompatible, because the graphics engines of the two games are very different ... but if is possible, it would be cool to have a couple of those creatures in my mode ... hmmm ... I'm asking before I'm trying so I guess I'm leaching (Nefarius) ... so I'll try do some things and see if they work ... but if anyone would like to comment on it, please do ....

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 06 January 2002 21:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Does it use the same 3D environment as D2 does? Are there 8 angles available for each monster, etc?

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NefariusDX
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posted 06 January 2002 21:15     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
d2 dosent use a real 3d environ it uses a pseudo 3d environment since the gfx isnt realy a 3d render rate "8/16dir 2d isometric"

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posted 06 January 2002 21:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
.......okay Btw, can you upload those D1 vipers and Hidden?

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NefariusDX
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ill make a zip out of them soon and move to my servers root dir (damn im lazy copy pasting files on my own hd :P) but dont worry there will be a d/l soon

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 06 January 2002 21:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Cool also you should take alook at KingCold's wyvern conversions and Incandescent's new Defiler conversions, they look quite good. As for Darkstorm, I have never played it so I don't know if the animations work for D2.

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Axalon
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posted 06 January 2002 21:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
Hmmm ... that's what I thought, Darkstone uses real 3D rendering, D2 is actually a 2D game with simulated 3D ... so I guess it can't be done ... too bad, they would have looked awesome in the mode ... but there are plenty of other great looking compatible animimations that should keep me busy for a long time to come ... anyway, thanks for the reply ....

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NefariusDX
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posted 06 January 2002 21:32     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
actually has any one tried to take gfx from war2?

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 06 January 2002 21:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Didn't you make an orc from Warcraft II as a nest?

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Axalon
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posted 06 January 2002 21:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
Warcraft2? that would be cool, taking some images from that, they should be compatible ... isn't that a 2D isometric game also?

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Axalon
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posted 06 January 2002 21:48     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
I'm going to dig up some old cd's and see if they work ... catch you later ....

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NefariusDX
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posted 07 January 2002 00:09     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
the orcs i used where uber tweaking they come from b.net chat turning that into a monster was like making a tutally new one

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Baz
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posted 07 January 2002 12:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
Age of Empires 2 and C&C enemies would be cool

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Axalon
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posted 07 January 2002 16:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
The Warcraft II animations seem to be very compatilble ... there are several other 2D isometric games that also seem work ... but I'm gonna keep that as a surprise for now C&C? Hmmm ... I didn't try that one, but its a very cool idea ... I'll try that ... imagine, having the commando running around in a D2 mod ... hehehe ... or those puffy white flame throwers ... hey, how about some kind of aerial attack? hmmmm ... this should be fun ... later ...

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NefariusDX
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posted 07 January 2002 17:03     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
i already started to work on CnC a few weeks ago, just need to set up the .MIX cracker

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Axalon
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posted 07 January 2002 17:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
Great, Nefarius ... I can just imagine what you could do with it ... can't wait to see your results ... any aerial attacks??

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Incandescent One
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posted 07 January 2002 18:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Incandescent One   Click Here to Email Incandescent One        Reply w/Quote   Visit Incandescent One's Homepage!
Hey Axalon, Maybe the anims can't be borrowed from darkstone, but are there any other grafix in the game that you think could be used? eg armour or weapon grafix? And what about sound files?

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Axalon
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posted 07 January 2002 19:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
Hmmm ... there may be few cool looking armors, weapons, ect ... that would be nice use from that game ... would the graphics be compatible? As said before, Darkstone uses a true 3D rendering engine, as opposed to 2D isometric ... the sounds would be easy enough to do, but what are you suggesting, Incandecent? That the armors, weapons, ect ... are in a 2D isometric format? Or that there is a special type of conversion I would need to do to make them compatible?

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posted 07 January 2002 21:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
Well ... just tried a few tests with the Darkstone armor ... they don't seem like they want cooperate ... the entire stucture of the graphics in that game are totally alien with anything that is 2D isometric based ... there might be a way but it's way over my head ... I'm gonna do myself a favor and stick a million anims & grfx that are compatible and friendly to work with ... the hardest part is choosing which ones to use ... between what you guys have made available & some of the things I have taken from several other games ... which are all very awesome ... I need to narrow down the playing field so I can begin arranging everything ... hmmm ... now which ones? ... ok ... eenee, meenee, miny, moe ... catch a monster by it's toe ... um ... this should take a while :-)

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posted 08 January 2002 02:17     Click Here to See the Profile for DigiBO   Click Here to Email DigiBO        Reply w/Quote   Visit DigiBO's Homepage!
Telamon's CV5 can open Darkstone's DSI archives and since I've played Darkstone before I've been searching for it for ages so I can steal a bunch of item gfx So have you tried with CV5?I have no idea about the gfx files' format though :|

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Incandescent One
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posted 08 January 2002 04:29     Click Here to See the Profile for Incandescent One   Click Here to Email Incandescent One        Reply w/Quote   Visit Incandescent One's Homepage!
That's what i meant digibo, i should've said Item grafix instead of weapon/armour grafix as this seemed to confuse people. There's probably a few games around that the anims won't transfer across, but i'm sure they have wavs & 'item' grafix that could be used for other purposes

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posted 08 January 2002 04:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
Took a little nap ... back online, but still bleary eyed ... ah ... anyway, DigiBo ... so you played Darkstone ... cool ... I thought I was the only one here who did that game ... CV5, yes I have tried, and I need to try again so I can get those gfx your looking for ... CV5 is buggy enough with things I'm familar with (gfx formats), I've tried to get some of those gfx from D-stone for myself ... but, like I've mentioned, the rendering engine they used for D-stone is totally different from anything else I have worked on before ... yeah, I'm just starting out and this first plunge into animation, but I catch on pretty quick (with a little help from some friends:-) ... anyway, DigiBo ... I'll go back in and try again to see if I can get some gfx for you ... I hope I can crack this one because I also want to use some those gfx for myself ... so I'll give it another shot and see if I can make it work, if I do I'll zip up as many gfx I can out of it and send them to you pronto ... the armors & weapons I think might be possible ... but as for that big dragon Drakk, I'd love to use him but he has so many parts, angles, & demensions in true 3d it makes my head spin ... I haven't the skill yet to take him apart and put him back together again, but someday, I'll get him ... just like I got him in the game but first things first, and I'll get back to you if get something ... so I'll catch you later, bro ....

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posted 08 January 2002 20:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
DigiBo ... I've tried a few more attempts to get those gfx from Darkstone for you , I don't know if it's just me or the if the gfx formats are just not compatible in some way, I can get to files but I just can't seem to extract any of them or make them work in a useful way ... I'm sorry ... If you or anyone else has any ideas on how to do this, please feel free to comment ... I'm also very busy at the moment, from preparing a presention for my job at work ... to testing out some of the things I've been working on in my mod, and to just plain eating and sleeping ... I guess a lot of you guys no about this grind already ... anyway, on a positive note, I was going to keep this as a surprise, but I might as well share it with you, I've been able to use the NOD's Obelisk's of Light in my mode, as in replacing some of the turrent's that shoot out lightning and fire balls, and also to add some in various strategic locations ... I still have a lot of tweaking and balancing to do, but it's seems the basic ground work is layed out for using them, but for sure, I had bang my head up against the wall a few times to make that one work :-) As of right now, I really need to go into my game and do some actual playing, not only to test my mod, but to also level up some of my charactors above lvl 99 and into the hundreds ... since I've created a new experience system up to clvl 360 by using Nefarius's tutorial ... so I can can have some fun playing and testing at the same time ... I'll be online for a little ... and then I'll be off to do some playing ... maybe a I'll make another try with Darkstone if I have a chance ... until then, take care & I'll catch you later ....

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posted 08 January 2002 20:36     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
note: to extract files with cv5, you must right click them

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posted 08 January 2002 20:53     Click Here to See the Profile for MPHG   Click Here to Email MPHG        Reply w/Quote   Visit MPHG's Homepage!
http://xccu.sourceforge.net/

mix file insert/extractor
i'm a Ra2 modder as well

umm one problem these people would be alittle small i think as well as
they would only be towns folk since
the have 1 part.

i know some of the soldier have about 500~1000 anim files all in pcx format
and in war2 they have about 256 with death ani that is also pcx format.

if you need help with c&c stuff let me know i'll be more then happy to help

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