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Myhrginoc
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posted 31 January 2002 21:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Myhrginoc   Click Here to Email Myhrginoc        Reply w/Quote   
Those of you who have converted D1 monsters, did you notice colors coming in lighter and brighter in D2?

Apocalypse Demon got me past my problem with the backgrounds, so I am back to converting D1 succubi. It shouldn't take me too long to get the DCCs, but when I tested the first couple just now I wasn't impressed with the colors, so I still have some work to do---either my palshift was off, or I picked the wrong unused monster (fire elemental - FM) to test against and I have a COF problem.

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posted 02 February 2002 08:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Incandescent One   Click Here to Email Incandescent One        Reply w/Quote   Visit Incandescent One's Homepage!
Hey Myhrginoc, i've had some crazy problems with colours from diablo1 conversions, latest was after converting the Black knights, they'd spawn ok in act1 looking exactly as planned, but in act4 they had changed slightly & gained additional colours (of all things bright yellow was one of them) The easy way around this kind of thing is to save using the "Static" palette in cv5, that way all colours will be the same through all acts and never change.
Also, if you're using a monster that has a palshift file, you can copy the first block of 256 bytes hex & paste it over all other palshift blocks to stop it changing any colours, much easier than randomly trying different palshifts to find a good match.
The thing that still annoys me tho, is that when you compare an original cl2 file to the dcc conversion it seems to have lost some of its clarity, seems slightly dull/more pixelly than the original. Considering the dcc file size is a lot smaller than its original i don't think there is any practical way around this

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Myhrginoc
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posted 02 February 2002 13:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Myhrginoc   Click Here to Email Myhrginoc        Reply w/Quote   
I noticed the pixel-shimmering too...I think it comes from the algorithm used by the CV plug-in when converting to DCC. My GIFs look just like the CL2s.

I am already using the static CV palette. But I made a palshift file because the D1 succubi have four color modes.

I finally finished that conversion, at least enough to upload it for feedback.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 02 February 2002 13:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Hey can you send me the conversion for doublechecking?

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Alkalund
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posted 03 February 2002 21:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Okay, fixed the Skeleton Warriors from Baldur's Gate 2. They now wield their weapons with their right hands in all animations and directions. You can grab the .dcc files at my page's animation section:

<Removed URL, page was shut down>

Please post bugs in the Animation Bugs thread by Apocalypse Demon here in this forum (hope I don't have to reconvert them again... )

And jbouley, you may upload these to the keep if you want to

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 03 February 2002 22:04     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Oh yeah, I still need to send you my shadows...though it will be alot of e-mails though. Probably three. I'll do that tomorrow and you can put them up on your site(and put who they were made by )

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Alkalund
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posted 03 February 2002 22:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Sure Apocalypse Demon, send the Shadow to me when you have the time, I'll create a section for your conversions on my site if you want

I'm still seeing if I can make the Transcendant One look right in the dcc's. In the meantime I won't upload it. My other two planescape conversions will be finished and uploaded by wednesday if all goes well. Then I'll give the Demogorgon a try

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Alkalund
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posted 05 February 2002 19:02     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, the Ghoul Queen and the Shadow type 1 from Planescape Torment are finished and can be downloaded at my site:

<Removed URL, page was shut down>


As usual, please post any bugs in the animation bugs thread.

Apocalypse Demon, I've just read in the BGmod forum you're going to update the conversions list tomorrow. Thx man, will start work on the demogorgon now, but I hope there still are some easy BG monsters to convert

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 05 February 2002 19:09     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Hey, can you send me the second shadow? You converted the first, I did the third, can I do the second?

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Alkalund
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posted 05 February 2002 19:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Sure you can. Have you seen the fellowship of the ring movie? the second shadow is much like a black gollum with big hands... I can send the files to you now if you wish.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 05 February 2002 19:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Okay, send over the Planescape shadow 2 then. Remember, one .ace at a time, my e-mail can't handle too much.

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Alkalund
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posted 05 February 2002 19:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Don't worry bro, I remember just sent you the first part, only one more after that one.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 05 February 2002 19:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Okay, send the second pack.

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Alkalund
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posted 05 February 2002 19:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Sent it!

I started work on the demogorgon and so far everything is good. You said you're having a hard time working on the shadow dragon. What kind of problems are you having?

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 05 February 2002 19:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Well, for the "problems", I actually meant it will be VERY time consuming since there are so many parts. I believe there are about 9 different body parts with 8 angles and 6 states, that is alot of conversion.

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Alkalund
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posted 05 February 2002 19:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
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Originally posted by Apocalypse Demon:
I believe there are about 9 different body parts with 8 angles and 6 states, that is alot of conversion.

WOW, 9 parts! That is really a lot . I'll really like to see that bastard when he's done. I killed him in Bg2 with one kick from my monk heh (and when I say ONE kick I mean it, really).

Oh well, back to work...

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 11 February 2002 19:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, I have all the parts edited, now how do I piece them all together into one? That's what I'm having trouble with at the moment...also, what have you been working on Alkalund? I need to know for the updated list. I'll make one now.

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Alkalund
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posted 12 February 2002 16:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Yep, I´m still alive

I´m doing other things now, but later I´ll post here the method I use to piece the multipart monsters together using gamani.
So you edited all the parts one by one? I really hope your work wil not have been in vain, for in my method I don´t edit pieces separately.

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posted 12 February 2002 18:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Ok Apocalypse Demon, now I have the time to explain my method. I´ll take for example the demogorgon´s atack1 animation. The
demogorgon has 4 parts. This is what I do:

1) firsty obviously I must do each direction from the animation. I start usually with the down direction. So extract the down direction gif files with infinity explorer. Open gamani, start a new file, and INSERT all the gifs from the direction you just extracted.

2) Optimize the animation (create global palette). Change the background and transparency colors. then, UNOPTIMIZE the animation (to make so that all the frames have the same size). Change the transparency color again.

3) Now, cut all the frames from the animation EXCEPT for the animation´s first part ones. Save what´s left as 111.gif

4) New file, paste frames, then cut all frames but the second part. Save as 112.gif

5) repeat this for the third and fourth parts, saving them as 113 and 114.gif

6) New file, insert 111.gif, and now BLEND it with 112.gif (check the frame-by-frame blending option IIRC, it will work perfectly because all the frames had the same size and matching offsets)

7) Blend this with 113 and 114.gif also.

8) Finally, just optimize to reduce frame size and make all the needed adjustments to the colors, and there you have it! The down direction of the demogorgon´s attack1 animation is done

I know this is a quick and incomplete explanation of the method, but hopefully you´ll get the idea.

Just let me know if you need any clarifications.

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posted 12 February 2002 19:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Trip   Click Here to Email Trip        Reply w/Quote   Visit Trip's Homepage!
Is there a page where all the converted animations are?? If not an archive should be started. Alkalund, the link to your site is not working. If you would like me to i could probly start an archive cause i got 500mb of webspace

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posted 02 March 2002 20:42     Click Here to See the Profile for KingCold   Click Here to Email KingCold        Reply w/Quote   
wow u really like to make multipart monsters complicated dont you? hehe i had a post on here somewhere or other explaining how i did my multi part conversions but its prolly soo lost on the board now... also can i have a updated list of converted monsters plz

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Alkalund
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posted 02 March 2002 21:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Hey KingCold, good to hear from you again

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Originally posted by KingCold:
wow u really like to make multipart monsters complicated dont you?

LOL, I'm sure my method might not be very optimized, but I got used with it and can make the multipart conversions really fast, the demogorgon took me about 2 and a half hours when I figured things out

Yes I remember you posted an explanation of your method, but I hadn't the time to test it back then.

About the updated list, mine is a bit old as well (february 6th), but I'll post it here so you can have an idea:

Diablo1/Hellfire:

Acid Beast
Bat
Biclops
Bloodknight
Crypt Demon
Defiler
Diablo
Fallen Brute
Gargoyle
Hell Boar
Hork Demon
Hork Spawn
King Leoric
Lich
Magma Demons
Na-krul
Necromorbs
Overlord
Psychorbs
Scorpions
Shredded
Stormrider
Vipers
Hidden
Dark Mage
Advocate
Succubus (I think so, don't remember)

Baldurs Gate I/II:

Air Elemental
Fire Elemental
Demon Knight
Lich
Tanari(Spinx)
Irongolem
John Irenicus
Serrated Skeleton
Axe Goblin
Red Dragon
Werewolf
Otyguh
Wyvern
Tazok
PitFiend(Ravager)
Leopard
Gith
Ettin
Axe Orc
Gold Axe Orc
Orc Archer
Orc Mage
Blue Salamanders
Manticore
Umber Hulks
Minifire Elemental
Beholder
Silver Dragon
Lizard Man
Cornugon (manticore)
Water elemental
Skeleton Warrior (all three)
Demogorgon

Icewind Dale:

Ice Elemental
Water Elemental
Earth Elemental
Fire Elemental
Final Boss - Belhiefet

Planescape Torment

Ghoul queen
Shadow 1
Shadow 3
Transcendant one
bone magus
Plate Skeleton
Spikeling
Spike Brute
Harbinger
Evil Treant
Ghreleth
Glabrezu

When I have the time I'll try to create a custom monster with my own graphics, but that can take a while...

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posted 02 March 2002 22:00     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
How come I don't have these Planescape new monsters like the Evil Treant, plate skeleton, etc? All I have is the shadows, bone magus...

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Alkalund
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posted 02 March 2002 22:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Hey Apocalypse Demon, how are things going with your conversions?

About the Planescape monsters you don't have, Krazoth converted those, he mentioned this in here:

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~phrozenkeep/ubb/Forum38/HTML/000314.html

He was going to send the conversions to us, but I guess he is still having some issues with his internet provider...

The plated skeleton is the BIG armored skeleton from Planescape Torment, he sent me that one, hasn't he sent it to you?

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posted 02 March 2002 22:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
Is the mushroom from BG2 already converted? Would be cool

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