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RicFaith
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posted 23 April 2002 01:53     Click Here to See the Profile for RicFaith   Click Here to Email RicFaith        Reply w/Quote   Visit RicFaith's Homepage!
Like the skeleton, Corrupted Rogues... Can they be replaced, with 1 monster or the like, or are they impossible to replace? So I'd have to use a different token?

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darkwhispers
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posted 23 April 2002 02:09     Click Here to See the Profile for darkwhispers   Click Here to Email darkwhispers        Reply w/Quote   
Ric....
I replaced the zombies which have quite a few parts with a 1 part monster. it was alot of work. I had to create lots of blank 1x1 pixel animations so the arms and head and legs wouldnt show. ie:
left arm:
A1, A2, GH, NU, WLK,ECT. A1 has 128 frames so i made 128 1x1 pixels that are transparent. i did the same thing for all the left arm graphics and then the right arm, head,legs ect. so it can be done. just lots of time.

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RicFaith
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posted 23 April 2002 04:14     Click Here to See the Profile for RicFaith   Click Here to Email RicFaith        Reply w/Quote   Visit RicFaith's Homepage!
hmmm... that's an idea

yeah you're right it would be rather tough. Heh now wondering if it's worthwhile/feasible since I'd have to do offsets anyway, so I could use a different token and do a token replacement so I can use the AI. I'll keep this is mind, thanks darkwhispers!

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Incandescent One
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posted 23 April 2002 13:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Incandescent One   Click Here to Email Incandescent One        Reply w/Quote   Visit Incandescent One's Homepage!
Hey Ric Faith, I did the same with the Black Knight plug-in, replaced all the doom/oblivion knights which were multipart, it's not too difficult, but you end up with a lot of 1x1 pixel blank frames to replace the arms/head/legs. The time consuming part is renaming all the files to match (i think my mpq2k script for Black Knights was around 240 lines!) but i think it was worth it in the end, they were the ideal choice for replacement.

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RicFaith
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posted 24 April 2002 08:26     Click Here to See the Profile for RicFaith   Click Here to Email RicFaith        Reply w/Quote   Visit RicFaith's Homepage!
240 lines!! eep. But can't we use a separate token and then do a token change? Well it's good news that we can replace the multipart monsters! now if I could just get down to it

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Bao Feng Xue
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posted 24 April 2002 09:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Bao Feng Xue   Click Here to Email Bao Feng Xue        Reply w/Quote   
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Originally posted by RicFaith:

Actually: I do think that it's not that much work. Make Empty132, Empty048 etc. dccs with the approprate # of frames, and from then on you're set. Whenever you replace, say, tr with another monster, count its frames and replace all the other body parts with the correct dcc. Takes up almost no space in the mpq either.

The opposite, now that's a lot of work! Of course, the offsets are not the same between body parts and the difference changes depending on direction! This could be a lot of fun to puzzle together in a gif animator... (bleagh)

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Baz
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posted 24 April 2002 10:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
if you want 1x1 .dcc's with 8,16,24,32,40 etc. frame, I'll send them you

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if you can send this to me too, it will be nice Baz

PS : does my gif are ok now ???

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Baz
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posted 24 April 2002 12:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
The files on your site are still just the same:
strange worm: only DD, DT, GH, WL and NU files
giant demon warrior: still 191.9KB and without files
and some files from the big beetle are missing directions

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 24 April 2002 13:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
I already converted the BigBeetle. See, three of it's states are missing one direction, but you can make it yourself by taking the opposite one and horizontally flipping it. So, I'm done the BigBeetle, you will see them in my mod now.

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Baz
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posted 24 April 2002 13:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
Of course... I'm used to flip the leftdown, left and leftup direction, so I didn't think of flipping right...whatver:P

PS: congrats, you're a moderator now!

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darkwhispers
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posted 24 April 2002 13:42     Click Here to See the Profile for darkwhispers   Click Here to Email darkwhispers        Reply w/Quote   
yeah i did the beetle too lol except i forgot to make him smaller came out in my mod big as a house. what a fight that was
and yes they are missing directions. but i used Gif animator and Paint pro 7 to make my own.Ive done this with many monsters from IWD as well as BG, BG2 ect. and looking for more

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