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Krazoth
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posted 12 February 2002 12:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
I've run into another problem. Despite searches I've done on the topic, I just cant seem to find a reliable way to do offsets, They always seem to be floating a few inches above their shadows, or jump to the side when attacking, ect. I've downloaded some of the plugins to compare and their offsets are basically perfect. I'd like to know how this is done as this it beggining to be a major setback, cant have my new monsters looking buggy. Thanks.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 12 February 2002 13:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
It's very tedious. You will need to first choose one animation to work on at a time. So, let's say the walking animation. Then, go into the game and estimate how far away the real body is from the animation for EVERY angle. All angles usually have different offsets. So, after you test it, change the offsets slightly, then go back into the game and they should have changed. Test again to get them even better and keep doing that until it's perfect.

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Krazoth
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posted 12 February 2002 14:48     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
Ouch, heh, guess I'll save that for last then, and just give my critters passable offsets till i get time.

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Nathalia
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posted 15 February 2002 11:00     Click Here to See the Profile for Nathalia   Click Here to Email Nathalia        Reply w/Quote   
Hmm is there no Idea where that dot should be ?
And the (0|0) point is in the upper/right corner ?

-y is up, y is down
-x is right, x is left

somehow confusing...

is this mirrored ?

And the y should be obove the head or below the feet or in the middle ? The X most probably somewhere in the middle...

Or is there absolutly only testing it out ?

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Borg
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posted 15 February 2002 13:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Borg   Click Here to Email Borg        Reply w/Quote   
Um, since this is a fairly recent post, I'll post my problem in here. Ok, I got the width and all, and I calculated the offsets. BUT. it says in the tutorial to save the edited .gif file as a .dcc WITH cv5. Ok, so, how do I go about to save the gif as a dcc with cv5. Everytime i choose save as all files, and then type in the .dcc extension myself, I get the 'must choose a supported extension!' message. hmmmm

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Nathalia
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posted 15 February 2002 13:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Nathalia   Click Here to Email Nathalia        Reply w/Quote   
Hmm you have to select your gif viel in the Explorer and then the Save botton on the right/down. There you can select dcc from the extansion menue and put in your offsets...

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Borg
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posted 15 February 2002 13:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Borg   Click Here to Email Borg        Reply w/Quote   
actually, i tried BOTH save buttons.the top left and bottom right. yes, I selected the .gif in the cv5 browser before attempting to save it as a .dcc. Both buttons did not have an extension for .dcc .... Am I screwed? Do I have a bad version??

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 15 February 2002 13:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Go to Cv5's site and download the cvdcc.dll file and put it in your addons folder of Cv5, then it should save.

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Borg
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posted 15 February 2002 14:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Borg   Click Here to Email Borg        Reply w/Quote   
thank you apoc


EDIT

Damnit fuk, I dled the cvdcc.dll file, put it in my addon section and the other folder. It did NOTHING.
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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 15 February 2002 14:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, put it only in your addon folder(not the arcon folder), then it should work. When saving the file, use the save button on the right, not the other save button.

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Borg
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posted 15 February 2002 15:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Borg   Click Here to Email Borg        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, it's working now, i can save as .dcc .... BUT everytime i do... cv5 crashes. Another problem? *sigh* and sorry for my bad language 2 posts up ;P I did not notice it.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 15 February 2002 15:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Cv5 does not crash, it just takes a while to save the file. It seems like it crashes, just wait it out and it should save it.

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Borg
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posted 15 February 2002 16:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Borg   Click Here to Email Borg        Reply w/Quote   
No no, you don't understand. Yes it does freeze like DC6Maker, but eventually it crashes. Ill go get the message right now....


a window pops up.

CV5
This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

If the problem persists, contact the program vendor.

Close button and Details>> button on the right side. in details it says...

CV5 caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 0187:bff7b997.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0187 EIP=bff7b997 EFLGS=00000246
EBX=6fddb378 SS=018f ESP=0067e394 EBP=0067e3a4
ECX=0120000c DS=018f ESI=6fe61c58 FS=1a4f
EDX=0120000c ES=018f EDI=0067e664 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
ff 76 04 e8 26 89 ff ff 5e c2 04 00 56 8b 74 24
Stack dump:
6fde5914 6fddef44 6fe61c58 0120000c 0067f618 6fddef6c 00000009 0067f60c 6fdde7a5 0120000c 6fddb3a3 0120000c 6fddf877 0067e664 0067f60c 0067e3e0

dunno if that helps. :\

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 15 February 2002 17:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Hmm, well I suggest you contact TelAmon(the creator of Cv5) and Bilian Belchev who made the cvdcc.dll file and ask them what's going on.

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Myhrginoc
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posted 15 February 2002 18:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Myhrginoc   Click Here to Email Myhrginoc        Reply w/Quote   
Make sure you are using CV 5.2, not CV 5.0. I had a lot of crashes with CV 5.0, but I found out CV 5.2 is reasonably stable on my machine. I think the version on the Keep resources page is 5.2.

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Borg
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posted 15 February 2002 19:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Borg   Click Here to Email Borg        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, I guess I'll contact them, and yes I do have CV5.2. thx guys

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Nathalia
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posted 16 February 2002 02:05     Click Here to See the Profile for Nathalia   Click Here to Email Nathalia        Reply w/Quote   
Hmm it seems to me that the offset is always near the lowest point of the monsters...
At least at those I looked at

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Incandescent One
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posted 16 February 2002 02:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Incandescent One   Click Here to Email Incandescent One        Reply w/Quote   Visit Incandescent One's Homepage!
Hey people, I'm still using my own way of determining the offsets, by changing the druid's werewolf anims with the one's i'm working on, you can shapeshift to wolf & back & match the two up till they're central, it's also good for playtesting when you take your shapeshifted monster through a couple of levels to make sure it's working ok. Here's an example of what i mean, this is a pic of the Blackknight conversion i did facing off against Andariel, i also used the feral rage spinner to make sure my anims were centered (obviously an aura would be one hell of a lot better!).

Although it takes a little while longer to work it all out this way i've stuck with it, you can see exactly what's happening every step of the way & test it all more thoroughly until you're happy with it

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willhunter
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posted 16 February 2002 19:17     Click Here to See the Profile for willhunter   Click Here to Email willhunter        Reply w/Quote   
Aura? Maybe get an Act II hireling to tag along with your druid?

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