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Krazoth
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posted 31 January 2002 13:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
Apocalypse Demon, was able to get into the .ace file, but you really need to send me .gifs so i can look at the paletes.

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 14:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
I finished all three Skeleton Warriors about 2 days ago, forgot to tell . They're looking good in the game, except for the annoying vanishing effect in some animations. I'm trying to discover what is causing this, but with no success so far. It's as if the game inserts a transparent frame between the animation loop, don't know why it would do this, and only in some directions of some animations, not all of them...

Yes, I am doing the ghoul queen, almost done now, as well as the first shadow monster.
I think I'll learn how to make a decent homepage before I upload all my conversions, but if anybody wants them I can send via e-mail.

Apocalypse Demon, how are things with the Manticore breath animation?

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Krazoth
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posted 31 January 2002 14:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
I know you were doing the Ghould Queen, but you said you saw a pallete problem, so i jsut converted a singe attack direction to see if i got the problem too, not trying to steal it, heh.

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 14:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Don't worry, I didn't think it that way
So, have you done another death animation for the T1? I mean that last one you sent me was pretty damn good already, and you said you put it together really fast just to have an idea

It's really sad we're having these pallete problems, but perhaps if we use a customized palshift.dat we can make the monsters look right in the game??

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posted 31 January 2002 14:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
Oh right yea, forgot to post this, the greatest animation size for any given dcc file is 300x300. So i shrunk the transcendant one's death, and it still looks good, I'll zip it up and sent right now.

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 14:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Great, I'll be waiting then

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 31 January 2002 14:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Can I get these skeletons and transcendent one animations please. And Krazoth, I'll send you the gifs but it will then take two .aces instead of one.

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posted 31 January 2002 14:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
Arg, went into Cv5 to try to see what the pal shift would do to my T1 death animation, and it just wont convert it. It creates the dcc but it has no frames. when you get it Alkalund try it out and see what happens.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 31 January 2002 14:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, I sent you the files Krazoth, see if you can fix the pallettes.

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 19:09     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Apocalypse Demon, I changed some global properties in my gifs to see if I can solve the vanishing problem. So I reconverted my skeleton files to dcc (but have not tested them again yet myself), I am sending them to you now (3 e-mails, one for each skeleton, that's 2.03MB total, hope it can fit in your mailbox ).
Just let me now when your box is empty and ready to receive the transcendant one, it's a big guy (even with the dccs compressed in zip, it's about 4.5MB heh )

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posted 31 January 2002 19:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Okay, got the skeletons, can you send that transcendent one guy in multiple zips. I suggest you get WinAce as it compresses files much better than WinZip can.

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posted 31 January 2002 19:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
What skeletons are these now?

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Krazoth
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posted 31 January 2002 19:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazoth   Click Here to Email Krazoth        Reply w/Quote   
Also, heres an update of all the monsters I've finished and tested in dcc form for any bad pal shifts.

Plate Skeleton
Spikeling
Spike Brute
Harbinger
Evil Treant
Ghreleth
Glabrezu

Going to go look for a way to reactivate my PsP so I can redo the Bone Magus Pal for all animations.

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 19:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Yep I have winace, but as usually people I send files don't have it I got used to compressing files to .zip My personal favourite is WinRAR though.
I'll send the transcendant one first part to you now, reply when you are ready for the second part.


EDIT: Oh damn I sent you gif files instead of dcc... please delete that one, I'll resend the dcc ones (man I hate when when I mix things up )
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posted 31 January 2002 19:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Never got anything yet? HOw large are the zips?

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 19:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
I just sent the first part dcc files at this very instant (936KB), should be there in a moment.
Oops forgot to tell, the gif files were returned, didnt looked at it right, they were 1.23MB. I'll keep them below 1MB

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 31 January 2002 20:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, send away your next pack.

Edit: Ok, got it. How many more zips are there?

Edit: Nothing yet from the third pack.

Edit: Okay, resend again...
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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 20:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
About three or four, I'm still packing them Sending file number three now

EDIT: Part three (809KB) was returned, I re-sent it right now.

EDIT: It got returned again... everything ok on your mailbox there?

EDIT: Can I send you the fourth part now?

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posted 31 January 2002 20:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, send the fourth batch of files. Oh, and I can't see what your reply is in the bugs thread since the reply isn't showing for some reason(common problem to me). It seems that ALL planescape monsters change their hand coordination at different angles. This is seen in all the monsters especially the skeletons. One angle they are holding the sword in the left hand, other attacking angle it's in the right hand. Pretty weird...

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posted 31 January 2002 21:02     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Hehe this non refreshing thing happens to me too... just download the page with a download manager, it will work then
Actually this left-right indecision (by the monsters part of course ) happens because I horizontal flip the upleft, left and downleft animation frames to get the other ones Hope this isn't too much of a problem ....

I'll send the fourth file now.

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posted 31 January 2002 21:12     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
The horizontal flip shouldn't make that happen...it does look weird when the monster is walking with sword in left hand and then the sword "flips" to his right hand when attacking.

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posted 31 January 2002 21:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Hmmm, it seems that in some frames, the transcendent one's arm is dislocated and seperated from his body...is this normal?

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 21:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
Actually it should happen, the horizontal flip (actually all flips) works just like a mirror... go on, test it for yourself.

Can I send you the fifth (and last ) part of the transcendant one?

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posted 31 January 2002 21:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Okay, send it over...is there a way to do the skeletons without that hand switch?

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Alkalund
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posted 31 January 2002 21:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkalund   Click Here to Email Alkalund        Reply w/Quote   
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Originally posted by Apocalypse Demon:
Okay, send it over...is there a way to do the skeletons without that hand switch?

I'll look the Bam files, see if they have the right-side animations also... if not, then no, it will not be possible.

The transcendant one is just like that, if you look carefully he has no neck as well... just a floating head

I'll send the final part of the T1 now.

EDIT: Ok Apocalypse Demon, you won the right side animations are there... I just don't have the time to redo the skeletons right now, I'll redo them at the weekend. Extra work on the weekend... oh well...

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