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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 13 January 2002 21:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
I'm still having trouble getting an animated gif to work properly. Every time I make one, when I play it, it gets REALLY distorted and I"m getting angry There always seems to be something I'm missing. So, badasswerewolf, I will send you ONE of the skullwing animations and you can tell me why it's distorted and how I can edit/fix it in the future. If only I knew this, I would be a mass converter of animations.

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KingCold
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posted 13 January 2002 21:22     Click Here to See the Profile for KingCold   Click Here to Email KingCold        Reply w/Quote   
blek figures, im working on that ATM, if i remember correctly there is a way to reduce size and keep image integrity by removing pixels, but i cant remember the term for it nor how to do it in imageready/photoshop/animation shop

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 13 January 2002 21:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, badasswerewolf, I sent you an animation that is screwed up and distorted, I'm a newb to animations and I can NEVER get it work properly. Play it with Cv5 and you will see the distortion.

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badasswerewolf
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posted 13 January 2002 21:41     Click Here to See the Profile for badasswerewolf   Click Here to Email badasswerewolf        Reply w/Quote   Visit badasswerewolf's Homepage!
KingCold, I've never heard of this capability. But, a thought just occurred to me. You might be able to get better quality results if you convert each frame to a 24-bit uncompressed image (use the .psp format if you use PaintShop Pro) before reducing. After re-sizing as a .psp, convert back to GIF and then build your animation with these.

Apoc, I'll check it out right now.

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Axalon
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posted 13 January 2002 21:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Axalon   Click Here to Email Axalon        Reply w/Quote   
OMG ... you guys freakin' unbelievable! You've been at it like 24/7 and this is the HUGEST thread I have ever seen ... Don't you guys ever eat/sleep/rest/function like normal human beings? (well at least badasswerewolf eats, and he's starting to add variety to his diet, which is a very healthy thing) hehehe lol ... I think think I could get a master's degree in gfx & anime just by reading this thread ... when you guys finish I'm gonna copy and paste this whole thread and archive it! If I log on here again tomorrow morning you guys will probably still be pounding away like Apoc's Iron golem ... pass the nodoze ... and move right along later, bros ....

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posted 13 January 2002 22:23     Click Here to See the Profile for badasswerewolf   Click Here to Email badasswerewolf        Reply w/Quote   Visit badasswerewolf's Homepage!
Axalon, I actually just got back to my comp tonight (Sunday). A buddy of mine dragged me to a casino to show off his ability to count cards at BlackJack yesterday. Well, I'm $265 richer and a believer in his method. He's actually been banned from 2 other casinos here in Minnesota. Anyway, I was hoping to do some more animations this weekend, but it looks like I'll have to start on it tomorrow... There's a spicy latina beckoning from the other room...

Apoc, I looked at the Skullwing attack animation. I see the problem immediately. You have to specify an animation frame size that is large enough to accommodate the largest X and Y dimension of any frame from your clips of each angle. You see, the problem is that each "angle" animation clip has a certain background size. You want to enclose this and center it. Then you need to resize the background to fit the bigger animation window. This is best done in MovieGear by blending a new background into the original. It's fast and easy. the background also must be opaque and you must use a "show background" as the frame disposal method.

To center the animation frames, you have to know how big they are in X and Y relative to the new larger animation size, then offset accordingly.

Now install Moviegear and have at it!

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 13 January 2002 22:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, when you say to "specify size", do you mean I have to resize it or what? Do I use the "resize" option?

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posted 13 January 2002 23:05     Click Here to See the Profile for badasswerewolf   Click Here to Email badasswerewolf        Reply w/Quote   Visit badasswerewolf's Homepage!
No. Don't alter the size of the original clips! First, simply open them and change the background color to RGB 170,170,170, opaque and save.

Create a new image in PaintShop Pro with size X pixels wide by Y pixels high at 72 dpi. X should be equal in size to the clip with the largest X-dimension. Likewise, Y should be equal in size to the clip (probably a different clip) with the largest Y-dimension.

Paint the background using the fill (paint can) to RGB 170,170,170. Save as "Compuserve GIF" - aka GIF 89a. It will color reduce to 256 colors. Accept the default prompts.

Open GIF MovieGear and then open the new GIF image. Copy this image to obtain the same number of frames as your first animation clip. Save it as a GIF animation file with a generic name. You will use this again and adjust the number of frames to match each clip.

Using the "Blend with" command in the "File" pulldown menu, composite the 1st animation clip. Actually first check it's size, so you know how much to offset it so it is centered when blended. Let's call the BIG blank animation A and the clip B. X Offset = (AX-BX)/2 rounded, Y Offset = (AY-BY)/2 rounded. Actually, it doesn't matter if you round or truncate, just be consistent. You can't half a pixel. LOL.

Now, confirm that the background is the right color and that the "tranparent" box is "unchecked" in the Animation properties window. Also, make sure the "Background image" is selected as the previous frame disposal method.

Save.

Repeat for other clips.

Splice all clips into one. Check settings again. Save.

Done. Open in CV5. Viola!

Oh, and don't forget to turn the shadow invisible. This was discussed in another thread.

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posted 13 January 2002 23:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, I will try that tomorrow and tell you how it goes. Hopefully I won't screw up.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 13 January 2002 23:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Ok, I *think* I got it, there is no distortion now when I use Cv5, can I send you the file again so you can check if it's completely fixed? And I never edited the shadow yet, first I want to know if I"m on the right track.

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posted 14 January 2002 00:35     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
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Regarding the succubus harlots from D1...I'm wondering if I'll get banned from here if I make them any "hotter"?

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Well, I wouldn't want to upload anything to the Keep that was pornographic...and I wouldn't want to see any screenies here that were...but nothing says you cannot have "hottie" succubi on your own site.

If you can keep them just this side of pornographic, I certainly wouldn't have any problem adding them to the rest of the anims...after all, some of the D2 monsters are damn near...though not quite...naked.

By the way, glad to see these dragons coming along so well...I thought we'd never see the day...

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posted 14 January 2002 08:54     Click Here to See the Profile for KingCold   Click Here to Email KingCold        Reply w/Quote   
im glad myself jbouly, these things take alot of patience, hardwork, and determintation, and i swear if i see another 9 part file for the next week ill have a mental breakdown :-D my next project is going to be the goblins and bg2 skelle warriors btw for all of you woundering, ill post it in the thread and lay claim to them in a lil while(new boss needs goblins and skelle warriors)

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posted 14 January 2002 09:00     Click Here to See the Profile for Baz   Click Here to Email Baz        Reply w/Quote   
Hey KingCold, do u wanna make those tiny little goblins from BG2? (they suck) The Bone Golem would be really cool.

I think JBouley has to make a section for D1 plugins and BG2 plugins

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posted 14 January 2002 15:34     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
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Originally posted by Baz:
I think JBouley has to make a section for D1 plugins and BG2 plugins


That is exactly my plan...how quickly I do that depend on how swamped I become with BG conversions and how much ambition I have.

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posted 14 January 2002 15:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Skylancer        Reply w/Quote   

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posted 14 January 2002 15:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Skylancer        Reply w/Quote   
double post

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posted 14 January 2002 16:11     Click Here to See the Profile for stargazer79   Click Here to Email stargazer79        Reply w/Quote   Visit stargazer79's Homepage!
just a post.. i currently have access to 20 meg webspace.. of which i need to reserve about 5 meg for webpage and screenies)..
but.. yer.. if you would like.. i can host a dragon piccy..

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posted 14 January 2002 18:53     Click Here to See the Profile for KingCold   Click Here to Email KingCold        Reply w/Quote   
ok... the good news, i have the dragon completed , now for the bad news, im too tired tonight to mess around with the gifs and stuff, and tomorrow is my birthday(21 years old, woooohoooo)so im prolly not going to have a chance to uplaod it tomorrow and im only going to be giving the link to the dragon to 4 or 5 different people(those of you who dont get the link will have to bother those people or wait for it to go up onto the keep)

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posted 14 January 2002 18:58     Click Here to See the Profile for stargazer79   Click Here to Email stargazer79        Reply w/Quote   Visit stargazer79's Homepage!
mmm good work man... im tired myself.. its 3am so im gonan go to bed..

great work .. thankyou!!!!

and.. more importantly Happy 21st man ..
(nice birthday present to be finsihed with the dragon huh?

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posted 14 January 2002 19:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Can you give me the link so I can test it out in game? Or perhaps send me the files and I'll test for you?

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KingCold
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posted 14 January 2002 19:53     Click Here to See the Profile for KingCold   Click Here to Email KingCold        Reply w/Quote   
u were one of the people i was gonna give the link to anyways, noone can pick an animation apart like u

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posted 14 January 2002 20:05     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Can you give the link?

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KingCold
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posted 14 January 2002 20:13     Click Here to See the Profile for KingCold   Click Here to Email KingCold        Reply w/Quote   
not up yet, read a few posts up, im not going to uplaod it for a few days, and im too tired right now to wait for animation shop to convert all of the gif files to 40% of their size and getting rid of the white outlines etc etc...

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