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Topic: Valkyie
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Chineseman Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 357 From: The Philippines Registered: Mar 2002 |
posted 25 March 2002 02:29
I can't copy the Valkyie to other monsters, i.e. DarkLancer row. When I do the gfx won't show, just its light radius. When I kill it, I only see the death animation.I extracted every other .dcc for the VK monster, and there weren'y any animations except for the death sequence. I'm guessing the Valkyrie is copying anims from the Amazon? Is this correct? Has anyone accomplished this? 
------------------ I just love cats... Yeah, maybe Carina too...

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FoxBat Moderator
   
Posts: 1618 From: PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 |
posted 25 March 2002 06:47
Yes the Valk is using mostly Amazon gfx, and that's why you can't move her graphic around.

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Chineseman Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 357 From: The Philippines Registered: Mar 2002 |
posted 01 April 2002 21:53
Dam. Oh well... 
------------------ A man whose heart is not content is like a snake which tries to swallow an elephant.

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Dragon Warrior Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 280 From: The Planet Vegeta Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 02 April 2002 03:28
Is that the reason? I suppose thats why the Assassin's clones don't work either. But, if you were so bold, couldn't you throw some of the peices (arms, legs, torso, etc)together as a one piece animation and then just convert?------------------ Cha La Head Cha La; We Gotta Power Screw the dub! Learn Japanese the fun way!

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Chineseman Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 357 From: The Philippines Registered: Mar 2002 |
posted 02 April 2002 04:45
Yes, I have thought of that one, but it would be a waste. Remember that the Dopplezon monster also has the token VK for Valkyrie. So, if you change this, the doppleganger skill would be useless. Unless of course you would remove the skill as well. 
------------------ A man whose heart is not content is like a snake which tries to swallow an elephant.

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FoxBat Moderator
   
Posts: 1618 From: PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 |
posted 02 April 2002 14:00
Not necessarily... notice the dopplezon doesen't even use the golden aura. It might be, but it might not. I'd try it out before saying anything certain.One thing that should be determined is whether the funny hardcoding is related to the key itself, or to the specific monstats.txt row.

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Myhrginoc Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1326 From: Percussion U Registered: Dec 2001 |
posted 02 April 2002 18:07
The valkyrie glow is probably an overlay. There is a DCC file with that name in the overlays directory.------------------ “It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” -- Sherlock Holmes

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Dragon Warrior Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 280 From: The Planet Vegeta Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 02 April 2002 22:04
Yes, its an overlay because I gave it to the assassin as an overlay for her quickness skill, but it looked tacky so I nixed it.  ------------------ Cha La Head Cha La; We Gotta Power Screw the dub! Learn Japanese the fun way!

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Chineseman Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 357 From: The Philippines Registered: Mar 2002 |
posted 04 April 2002 01:39
So I guess there's still hope in changing the Valkyrie to a monster? Let me know if you were able to do anything about it, FoxBat. 
------------------ A man whose heart is not content is like a snake which tries to swallow an elephant.

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Dragon Warrior Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 280 From: The Planet Vegeta Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 06 April 2002 23:04
Yes, it is possible. I've been using Gamani to put together an assassin clone, 1 piece. The "blend with" option works great, only problem is that the animations have multiple directions as you know, so while it looks fine in the first direction, its all screwed in the second or third, etc. The only remedy for this that I have been able to find so far is 'One Direction At A Time' doing it this way will take a VERY VERY long time. Does anyone in the monster conversion industry know of a better way?------------------ Cha La Head Cha La; We Gotta Power Screw the dub! Learn Japanese the fun way!

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Darkblade Squire

Posts: 47 From: Greece Registered: Feb 2002 |
posted 07 April 2002 13:06
i remember trying that as well and doing one direction at a time didnt help either... i actually had to do one frame at a time and eventually got bored and quited  ------------------ How sleep the pure, Desire in Violent Overture

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Apocalypse Demon Moderator
   
Posts: 4023 From: Mississauga, Ontario Registered: Oct 2001 |
posted 07 April 2002 13:14
"i remember trying that as well and doing one direction at a time didnt help either... i actually had to do one frame at a time and eventually got bored and quited"Why not? Not sure what you're doing but for god's sake, don't do it one frame at a time, you're not going to get anywhere with that.

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Chineseman Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 357 From: The Philippines Registered: Mar 2002 |
posted 09 April 2002 02:14
So I guess you have to pick only 8 or 16 directions? It is painfully hard if you're going to do it piece-by-piece.Haven't tried Gimani yet, although I already downloaded the damn thing. 
------------------ It is difficult to win a friend in a year; it is easy to offend one in an hour.

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Dragon Warrior Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 280 From: The Planet Vegeta Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 09 April 2002 02:47
Well, once you get going you can get one animation done (all 8 directions, all pieces) in about 1 1/2 hours, give or take, much less if you magically get the blending right on the first try every time. ------------------ Cha La Head Cha La; We Gotta Power Screw the dub! Learn Japanese the fun way!

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Chineseman Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 357 From: The Philippines Registered: Mar 2002 |
posted 10 April 2002 02:59
Thanks for the tip, Dragon Warrior. 
------------------ It is difficult to win a friend in a year; it is easy to offend one in an hour.

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Darkblade Squire

Posts: 47 From: Greece Registered: Feb 2002 |
posted 12 April 2002 13:44
" Not sure what you're doing but for god's sake, don't do it one frame at a time, you're not going to get anywhere with that. ".Well i thought it would be funny if i made an "Abommination of Nature" with a different monster for each part. i wasn't really taking it seriously anyway otherwise i would've finished it. my prob was that puting all the stuff together didn't work well for all the frames EVEN the ones of the same directions and so ,as i said, i quited 
------------------ How sleep the pure, Desire in Violent Overture

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