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gorothon
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posted 07 January 2002 21:07     Click Here to See the Profile for gorothon   Click Here to Email gorothon        Reply w/Quote   
How can i put act5 monsters in act1 besides using the level editor?

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NefariusDX
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posted 07 January 2002 21:13     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
(lol ) like any other monsters look at my levels.txt guide for v1.08+ i posted some pages back, a note: the POPULATEID is not related to the number the monster is actually spawned at its just a reference field, in excel rows have a number so if lets say you want to move a putrid defiler into act1 like i did for act2 go down to the defiler row they are arround row 550, lets say the monster is row 555 so in levels.txt m1-25 columns put 553 (simple -2 of column number)

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gorothon
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posted 07 January 2002 21:42     Click Here to See the Profile for gorothon   Click Here to Email gorothon        Reply w/Quote   
so for a act5 guy he could be like -1? I don't get it!!! Forget it!!! I am not going to spend hours trying to figure out where 1 stupid monster goes!!!

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NefariusDX
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posted 07 January 2002 22:43     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
lol -2 whats so hard to do row number -2?

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jbouley
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posted 07 January 2002 22:50     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
Nope.

Act 5 monsters in Act 1-4 is their line number in Excel minus 3.

You use that number the same way you would use the Populate ID number for any other Act 1-4 monster in Levels.txt.

-2 doesn't work because there is the blank Expansion separator line.

I think gorothon must have misunderstood big-time what you guys were saying because it really is easy.

Did my explanation make any more sense, gorothon? It's very similar to how you put classic monsters in Levels.txt.

It's just that for classic monsters, you use the Populate ID # in monstats.txt. For Act 5 monsters, you cannot just use the Populate ID number because they would be the same as the Act 1-4 monsters. Hence, subtract 3 from the row number for that expansion monster, and use that as the Populate ID #.

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NefariusDX
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posted 07 January 2002 23:59     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
jeff i spawned them in act 2 with -2 and they worked, the expansion line seams not counted except for the first monster after it, i think the -3 issue is if u wanna spawn act1-4 monsters in act5

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NefariusDX
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posted 08 January 2002 00:09     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
heres a explenation why i guess so many ppl say -3 right now: the expansion monsters dont have names i monstats just like defiler1-5 so unless u check string u dont know what you spawn, now row number -2 will choose the right monster due to the simple fact that row number -3 would just choose the next monster, the only thing u cant do is spawn the expansion row (DUH) thats all where this confusion came from, i belived this myself until a few weeks ago when i started working on act2, i spawned all the pain worms/defilers with -2 and they work great

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jbouley
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posted 08 January 2002 00:24     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
Ok...I'll take your word for it.

Don't really have time to confirm...though I suppose I should adjust the note I added to your Levels tutorial, then, before I announce how to get to it.

Since you brought it up, though, the method for spawning Act 1-4 monsters in Act 5 is much different. You take the Monster's PopulateID and subtract 436 from that number.

So, for the Damned (whose PopulateID is 14), it is 14 - 436 = -422 ... that's the number you type into levels.txt

I added this little bit of info to your Levels tutorial as well.

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NefariusDX
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posted 08 January 2002 00:42     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
jeff, im doing a AI sheet, will be done some time later this months. there are only a few AIs explained in AIparams/monstats.txt so some one needs to type a sheet

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Brother Laz
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posted 08 January 2002 01:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
quote:
Originally posted by NefariusDX:
lol -2 whats so hard to do row number -2?

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Originally posted by jbouley:
Act 5 monsters in Act 1-4 is their line number in Excel minus 3.

LOL!

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Incandescent One
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posted 08 January 2002 04:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Incandescent One   Click Here to Email Incandescent One        Reply w/Quote   Visit Incandescent One's Homepage!
quote:
Originally posted by NefariusDX:
jeff, im doing a AI sheet, will be done some time later this months. there are only a few AIs explained in AIparams/monstats.txt so some one needs to type a sheet


Hey Nefarius, that is definitely something that i could make good use of, there's several AIparams that don't have descriptions in Monstats.txt, definitely quite a few blanks that i'd like to see filled in there.

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gorothon
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posted 08 January 2002 05:05     Click Here to See the Profile for gorothon   Click Here to Email gorothon        Reply w/Quote   
Not trying to sound stupid but i still do not get it!!!!!

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NefariusDX
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posted 08 January 2002 10:56     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
this is the most simple thing to do lol u did it in first grade at school i think:

lets say row number is 100

the row you put in levels.txt is the result of what happens if you remove 2 from 100 so:

100-2=98 so the number you use is 98

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stargazer79
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posted 08 January 2002 10:57     Click Here to See the Profile for stargazer79   Click Here to Email stargazer79        Reply w/Quote   Visit stargazer79's Homepage!
gorothon.. most poeple in here understand what they are doing simply because they do spend time trying ti understand.. ie.. they spend hours and hours until they figure it out... you cant expect to understand if you wont go through the effort to understand.. dont give up so easily on learning.

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gorothon
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posted 08 January 2002 11:16     Click Here to See the Profile for gorothon   Click Here to Email gorothon        Reply w/Quote   
I must tell u I have tried countless times before i even post and had so many crashes!!! So I decided to ask later!!! That is something I have worked on for a bit I just don't go telling anyone about it.

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NefariusDX
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posted 08 January 2002 12:47     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
you probably spawned something like the gorgon that has unfinishes graphics

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gorothon
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posted 08 January 2002 14:02     Click Here to See the Profile for gorothon   Click Here to Email gorothon        Reply w/Quote   
Welp I got it figured out now I was using d2text editor thats why what u were saying made no sence but it works now yahoo!!! LOL Thanx Nef

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jbouley
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posted 10 January 2002 00:57     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
ah...so that program doesn't number the rows, I'm guessing? That would make for some confusion...

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gorothon
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posted 10 January 2002 05:19     Click Here to See the Profile for gorothon   Click Here to Email gorothon        Reply w/Quote   
Ya dbtext editor dosen't number the rows thats why whet u guys were telling I couldn't make heads or tales of it!!! But now I use both together dbtext edior for entering the new stuff and excel for act5 monsters!!!

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