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Ozman46
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posted 12 December 2001 15:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Ozman46   Click Here to Email Ozman46        Reply w/Quote   
I was curious on how to make rare charms drop. The tutorial on Phrozenkeep says that you can't in LOD 1.09 but at least 3 of the mods I have played have managed to do this. Any help would be appreciated.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 12 December 2001 15:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
In itemtypes.txt, go to the small charm, large charm and grand charm rows and put a 0 for them in the "Magic" column and put a 1 in the "Rare" column. Then in magicprefix.txt and magicsuffix.txt, put a 1 in the "rare" columns for the affixes that you want to appear on rare charms(basically activating the affixes for rare charms). Do this for every type of charm and it should work(unless I missed something).

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Ozman46
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posted 12 December 2001 16:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Ozman46   Click Here to Email Ozman46        Reply w/Quote   
Thanks I will give that a try.

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Kobu
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posted 13 December 2001 02:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Kobu   Click Here to Email Kobu        Reply w/Quote   
You don't need to do anything in the magic prefix and suffix files. Change itemtypes.txt as above and then in rareprefix.txt and raresuffix.txt, add as many of 'char' as you like. This will allow them to be generated.

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masakari
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posted 13 December 2001 03:52     Click Here to See the Profile for masakari   Click Here to Email masakari        Reply w/Quote   
Apocalypse Demon is partly right too, because if you want that a affixe (example 50 to life) appear on the rare-charm and in the rare-column in magicsuffixe/~prefixe isn't a "1" than you must put in that column a "1". 1 say it is allowed to appear an rare, 0 say it isn't.

So both are right and everybody is happy

cu Masakari

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Kobu
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posted 13 December 2001 05:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Kobu   Click Here to Email Kobu        Reply w/Quote   
Sure, you can change what mods can go on rares in the magic txts but make sure you add 'char' to the rare ones or they won't generate at all.

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masakari
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posted 13 December 2001 08:53     Click Here to See the Profile for masakari   Click Here to Email masakari        Reply w/Quote   
Yes i know because otherwise is no name available for rare charms. Right

cu Masakari

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AK
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posted 13 December 2001 12:52     Click Here to See the Profile for AK   Click Here to Email AK        Reply w/Quote   Visit AK's Homepage!
Out of curiousity, after 1.09 can unique charms be added? I also read in the rare/unique charm tutorial that it's no dice, and I thought I would ask here.

I always thought adding charm abilities to Khalim's items, etc, would be pretty damn useful as well. ^_^

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mrbean1121
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posted 13 December 2001 15:13     Click Here to See the Profile for mrbean1121   Click Here to Email mrbean1121        Reply w/Quote   
It'd be cute to have charm properties on the khalim items all right, but what if you were to get used to them? It would be a helluva mental problem, whether you would want to complete the quest or keep the items :P

Say, along the line of charms, is there a way to make unique jewels drop? I'm also gonna need the item ID code for jewels if there is (and the codes for charms would be nice too )

See ya for now

mrbean1121

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 13 December 2001 15:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
I have made unique jewels drop in my mod though I haven't tested them out yet since I've been very busy. But yes, they can be made.

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jbouley
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posted 13 December 2001 16:39     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
quote:
Originally posted by mrbean1121:
It'd be cute to have charm properties on the khalim items all right, but what if you were to get used to them? It would be a helluva mental problem, whether you would want to complete the quest or keep the items :P

Say, along the line of charms, is there a way to make unique jewels drop? I'm also gonna need the item ID code for jewels if there is (and the codes for charms would be nice too )

See ya for now

mrbean1121



I made recipes that will change Khalim's parts into various charms, amulet, or rings...all of which are unique and can be gotten no other way. However, I also created a new recipe for the Khalim Flail so that you can still generate Khalim's Will.

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AK
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posted 13 December 2001 18:44     Click Here to See the Profile for AK   Click Here to Email AK        Reply w/Quote   Visit AK's Homepage!
Excellent!

Yeah, I was thinking about that... I thought it would add a little flavor, so I decided to make the bonuses useful but not irreplacable.

As an amusing but related sidenote... my first character on my HDD was a mace barb, and Khalim's was better than what he had equiped. Giving that up in order to fight the act boss... that was tough. ^_^

Let me know about the unique jewels... that's too sweet. ^_^

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Syntaks
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posted 13 December 2001 19:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Syntaks   Click Here to Email Syntaks        Reply w/Quote   
Why just use Khalim's stuff??

Why not just use body parts? They have brains, eyes, tails, hearts.. all ripe for socketing.

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jbouley
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posted 13 December 2001 20:12     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
The reason to use Khalim's parts is twofold:

1. Give a reason for people to go on that long-ass Act III quest and not be annoyed by having to track down all those items just to make a weapon you eventually destroy.

2. If you use a "common" item to make these charms...they will be reproducible. By using unique body parts you can make the charms themselves unique and thus justify making them more powerful.

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For my latest mod (for LoD/expansion), download the Preview of Sanctuary in Chaos vesion 1 - Or for old stuff (for classic D2), visit my orignal mod site at www.planetdiablo.com/sanctuary

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Forsaken
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posted 14 December 2001 02:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Forsaken   Click Here to Email Forsaken        Reply w/Quote   
If I'm not mistaken, quest items like the different Khalim parts will reappear in their original location when "lost" or "destroyed" (read: used in some sort of evil cube recipe). This effectively means that whatever power item you can create with the bodyparts, you can keep recreating it over and over, with the only limitation that you will have to go look for the bodyparts again and again.

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Brother Laz
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posted 14 December 2001 03:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
Well, that's good, isn't it? Otherwise you would be stuck with your crafted uber item staring at the compelling orb for all eternity

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Forsaken
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posted 14 December 2001 05:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Forsaken   Click Here to Email Forsaken        Reply w/Quote   
No it isn't. Like Jeff mentioned, he created another way to get the Super Flail. So this means you can create your Super Flail easily enough with the special recipe, and you use the Khalim body parts to create your uber item, whatever it may be. As long as it is something of which you can wear only one, then there is no problem, but if it is a crafted super-charm or a ring, then its not a good thing that you can create more than one of them...unless you were to add some other incredibly difficult to find object to it...

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jbouley
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posted 14 December 2001 21:53     Click Here to See the Profile for jbouley   Click Here to Email jbouley        Reply w/Quote   Visit jbouley's Homepage!
quote:
Originally posted by Forsaken:
If I'm not mistaken, quest items like the different Khalim parts will reappear in their original location when "lost" or "destroyed" (read: used in some sort of evil cube recipe). This effectively means that whatever power item you can create with the bodyparts, you can keep recreating it over and over, with the only limitation that you will have to go look for the bodyparts again and again.


Hmmmm...never thought about that. Guess I always assumed it was like the Book of Skill and things like that which never can be used again after the first time.

Oh, well...I wonder if you could give "fake" quest numbers in the Quest column of misc.txt (i.e. numbers higher than those already in use)? If so, that should prevent more than one of the charms-from-Khalim parts from being carried at any one time (each of these three special recipe items has its own line in misc.txt)...thus limiting the use of the organs indirectly. I know in older patches when I gave items a quest designation (in this case, the unused one for the defunct Black Tower Key quest)...you could only pick up and equip one such item at a time.

In any case, I still like using the Khalim parts in this way. Having to go back and get the organ is still more difficult than getting one of the "normal" hearts, eyes or brains in my mod.

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"A hero is no braver than anyone else. He is only brave five minutes longer."
For my latest mod (for LoD/expansion), download the Preview of Sanctuary in Chaos vesion 1 - Or for old stuff (for classic D2), visit my orignal mod site at www.planetdiablo.com/sanctuary

[This message has been edited by jbouley (edited 14 December 2001).]

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