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Brother Laz
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posted 05 January 2002 14:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
The plague of B.net are the leeches, PKers and similar kinds of 'this is MY game' people.

Now read this, by Flux in his javazon guide. Note that Flux is the webmaster of diabloii.net, one of the largest D2 sites, and IIRC he even has an Iron Wolf named after him.

Important parts marked in bold.

The one who opens the Cow Level has ownership of it. This goes out the window in Cow Run games, where everyone is there to do the Cow Level, but if you join a game where people are all over the place, or doing Bloody, and open up the cows when no one else is in Act One, its your level. If someone else comes and asks if they can come in, and wants to party with you, it's up to you, what you want to do. There isn't any way to keep them from entering the Red Portal, but there's nothing to say you can't lead 50 cows to it and cast a Decoy, then run away.

You should be very careful entering a Red Portal that you don't know is clear, since it could have been trapped intentionally or accidentally, and if there are solid cows on it, you'll probably die before you can move or exit the game.

Often times, rude people will join a game and come in to poach your cows without any word to you about it. If the same person does this repeatedly, you have every right, in fact it's almost an obligation, to trap the red portal. It will either kill them, or at least give them a scare, (Hardcore at least.) perhaps teaching them some manners. Of course if it doesn't and they have any balls, (which is rare) they'll probably go hostile and try to get you, so if you aren't prepared for that, you shouldn't trap it in the first place, and should just resign yourself to being poached upon.

The really annoying part is that poachers are usually horrible players. They have no idea of proper herding, and they wear gutter equipment, so you'll go over an area they just did and there are stray cows everywhere, pathetic little 150g piles, etc. They only look for items and experience, (and not very well, generally being too lazy to pick up gold to see if there are things that don't show in the loot stacks) usually while wearing equipment that gives no MF, so their odds of finding anything other than Jewels and Charms are very low. They are really just public game leeches, players who are new or just sloppy and think of nothing more than experience, though why they want to be a higher level when they'll only use that to poach or do public games .1% faster is unknown.

Nice guy ain't he?

Don't blame Blizzard anymore for their decisions about PvP. It's just that the players, even this one with his huge and famous web site, live to PK the innocents' ass.

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Brother Laz
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posted 05 January 2002 14:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
Posted the same thing on the dii.net forums, using a friend's account.

This was Apocalypse Demon's answer.

'LOL, this cracks me up. lol Flux, good job getting rid of those non mf leeches.'

Apoc, please tell me this was a joke and not everyone has gone insane.

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posted 05 January 2002 14:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Syntaks   Click Here to Email Syntaks        Reply w/Quote   
It's a game..

If you don't like it, start your own game, pasword it and move on...

sheesh.

Didn't now the cows were in such demand..

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 05 January 2002 15:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Hey, it was a joke, can't you tell with the tone of the message. I personally don't like Flux...his site has so much incorrect data and I have sent him many statistical formulas, calculations, corrections and he ignores it...hey, never knew that was you at diabloii.net.

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posted 05 January 2002 15:20     Click Here to See the Profile for FoxBat   Click Here to Email FoxBat        Reply w/Quote   
Realmers don't have players x, so to get 8 player benefits they need to find a game with 8 players.

Why you get on realms to play the cow level by yourself is beyond me though

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Brother Laz
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posted 05 January 2002 15:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
Not exactly me, it's my friend's account (something keeps me from actually registering as Brother Laz and participating in the 'My bur120n 0wNZ y00' arguments). I mailed him the quote, and he said something along the lines of 'you're better at flaming people, go ahead and do so'

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 05 January 2002 15:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Actually, why don't you register as Brother Laz(or anyone else for that matter?) Yes, there are alot of flamewars(many started by me to defend legit players) but it's an 'okay' site...

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Brother Laz
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posted 05 January 2002 15:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
Just go to any strategy page.

'MF sorc that can lay waste to hell cows?'
'The ULTIMATE PvP druid guide!'
'Post your Ammy Stats'
'Best Sorceress Ever'
'new mf barb'
'Question on Arkaine's Valor'

Hundreds of posts like those. Not exactly my kind of nice discussion forum. It's a dog eat dog world there. And those with the best PvP 5k1LLZ or the most MF win. Bah.

BTW: Apoc, you'll get the holy static data within... 37 hours. When I see an Internet connected computer again.

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Apocalypse Demon
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posted 05 January 2002 15:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Yes, I know what you mean. Most of the posts there are pretty stupid. Like "does clvl affect mf", "Pindleskin HELLPPPPP!!!", "Maphack is good", etc threads. Most of the questions they asked have been answered MULTIPLE times even on the same page sometimes but people are really lazy nowadays...I just help around in the statistics and part strategy forum as well as have some cheating flamewars in the community forum to spice things up.

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NefariusDX
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posted 05 January 2002 15:57     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
maybe i should point a small very unimportant fact up: IIOAFG! IT IS ONLY A FÜCKING GAME why do ppl take stuff so serious, ****ed up by pks, build a char that can equal them and defeat them, ****ed up cuz of tradehack? get a prog that lets you scan your ram, ****ed of accoutn by stealers?
just waste 5 mins of your like righting down a passsword that is not the same as your account name, ****ed off by those lame scammers? if you fall for such a scam you shouldent be allowed online any way, ****ed by those ppl that use trojans to steal accounts? get a decent trojan scanner not like the bs ones like northon (which is a viri scanner not even built to kick trojans) goto www.moosoft.com and get the cleaner, now some ppl might find this post insulting but wth, if ppl want to pk let them they paid for the game as well and if they think its fun then they should do it until they get sick of it themselves, i dont support any of this but well i know many ppl actually like pking others it was a part of d1 and is a part of d2 and if it will be removed blizzard will loose alot of costumers, stuff that really was unfair in the game: loot the only thing that really made no sence in none hardcore games.

if you got insulted by this post then DONT READ IT AND GO CRY IN A CORNER

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The escence of leeching is to request before you try

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posted 05 January 2002 16:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Nefarius, I don't know who this was intended to but when it comes to hacks, ruining your fun is like ruining your life. You play the game usually when you are bored and to have fun, people ******* you by using maphack, tradhacks, or anyother hacks ruin your fun UNFAIRLY and should be banned from battlenet.

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Brother Laz
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posted 05 January 2002 16:05     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
Nefarius, I'm really surprised to see a post like that coming from a person like you.

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NefariusDX
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posted 05 January 2002 16:08     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
read what i posted at the bottom of the post i dont support any of it but if some ****ers what to do it they should until they get bored of it most of these ppl stop playing after abou 1 week any way since the game really gets boring if u just **** and pk in it or some of them actually start playing normal, the post was not intended to any one in this forum i just posted it in general to simply point out that it is only a GAME and i really get ****ed of when ppl start taking stuff that happens in games in real life

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posted 05 January 2002 16:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Yeah true...

P.S. try to hold off on the profanity.

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Brother Laz
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posted 05 January 2002 16:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Brother Laz   Click Here to Email Brother Laz        Reply w/Quote   
quote:
Originally posted by NefariusDX:
[B****ed up by pks, build a char that can equal them and defeat them[/B]

OK, so I'm stupid because I have a character that's built to play the game, not defeat PKs.

Lemme tell ya, my la(te)st realm character was a convert/thornsadin. Just to defend myself against the WP loading exploits. You know, the ones where you preload an area, and when the other player goes through the WP to that area, you hostile, go through yourself, get there before him, and kill him before he can do anything about it.

My paladin did kill slower PvM, but the level 34 thorns made him mostly immune to that kind of attack by melee classes. Then I realized what I was doing and what B.net had become, and left the sinking vessel.

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NefariusDX
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posted 05 January 2002 16:17     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
you can actually build any char to be powerful enough yesterday i stared a new char on useast now at lvl60 basicly for pvm but i killed a few pks so far that hostiled me for no reason (one of them actually was lvl83), you should read those pk guides and thru that understand what areas of the char you can use to defeat them the old saying know your enemy better then yourself actually comes very handy here

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posted 06 January 2002 12:01     Click Here to See the Profile for modie   Click Here to Email modie        Reply w/Quote   
so now that i use maphack means that i should not play on bnet?

i wish i did not have to use it, i wish that there was a light radius **** because i can not play the game with the normal radius...it makes me mad that they fave to ad that part......i did not play till i found out about the maphack

but for the map part of the map i NEVER use the map at all because
1)it takes away from the game
2)but most of all my bad bad eyes can not make out the map and game.......lol

(i do use maphack in 1 player to test mods out that is all)

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posted 06 January 2002 12:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Yes, if you use maphack on closed realms, I'm afraid you are not wanted on closed battlenet. The light radius feature is a feature of the game, removing it is cheating everyone else.

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NefariusDX
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posted 06 January 2002 16:04     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
i wait until blizzard does what westwood did for TS online games, every one that enters with any modified file or **** will be auto kicked

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posted 06 January 2002 16:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
The problem is that maphack doesn't modify the game files. It only makes you see it clientside. And blizzard has stated they cannot do anything about maphack, that is pathetic.

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posted 06 January 2002 16:41     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
trust me it CAN be fixed anything can but blizzard dosent care, in fact like 70% of the ppl on closed use if and YES they can make it detectable, every program comes with its own signature wile it runs and loads data into ram, make d2 find that signature wile u log on to closed or wile you play and give you a disconnect from b.net this isnt that hard to do, you can find the sig ID number for it id u run something like TCActive.

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posted 06 January 2002 16:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Hmm, that's interesting. Mind e-mailing that suggestion to blizz in hopes they might use it to solve the problem. You never know, they might care after all. Since you know what you are talking about, are you willing to e-mail that to blizz. They might do something about maphack(or all hacks for that matter). And what's funny, is that blizzard doesn't realize that if they fail to live up to the expectations they setup, not many people are going to buy from their next products except gullable fools...though the game like WOW or Warcraft III might be good, they will eventually abandon it like they did with Starcraft, Diablo I and II and now the Xpac(almost abandoned).

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posted 06 January 2002 16:52     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
if i send them any more mail it will be REAL mail so in need thei pobox, reason:

1. they have a autoreply bot
2. it chooses a answer due to count of specific words in your mail
3. mostly your email is forwarded to trashcan

i might send them real mail or get some of my friends to code a **** detector or something and make it available

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posted 06 January 2002 16:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse Demon   Click Here to Email Apocalypse Demon        Reply w/Quote   
Send it to an actual representative like Jasons.blizzard.com. I sent him messages many times and he responded without an auto reply(he even mentioned my name and asked me questions and the messages he sent me were always different and were actually about what I was talking about).

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posted 06 January 2002 17:02     Click Here to See the Profile for NefariusDX   Click Here to Email NefariusDX        Reply w/Quote   Visit NefariusDX's Homepage!
as for pks and how to prevent it, who ever open the game should have a kick option

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