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Topic: need you opinion if this is overpowered :)
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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 06 January 2002 07:25
well, the main point in this post is the thought of the general public modding comunity if this is overpowerd, in XyRAX i made a item called "Spiritual Salve" avilable ONLY from gambleing if they are right clicked they turn into a random rune they are VERY expensive to gamble a cost of about 500k at lvl 70 but with a 1:33 chance to gamble zod (at lvl70+) the runes spawn only thru char level so you cant get zod with a lvl1 char (eg: low lvl runes lvl5+ medium level runes 10 and so on till lvl 70 for zod)

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spellcaster Serf
Posts: 0 From: Petah-tikva,Israel Registered: Nov 2001 |
posted 06 January 2002 07:43
hi NefariusDX, i think it is Alright! it is not overpowered! (i didnt understood you, what do you mean in all those stuff) if you will tell me what do you mean so i will tell you if it is overpowered!------------------ Baal slayer! CHEERZ to TEKNOKYO! :)

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Incandescent One Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 272 From: Great Britain Registered: Nov 2001 |
posted 06 January 2002 11:00
Hey Nefarius, from what i gather by reading your description, you have to gamble to get the item at a cost of 500k at lvl 70, You then have to right click on the item to transform it into a random rune, in effect you're gambling twice for it, and it's level based too. I'd say that sounds pretty well balanced, especially as you're not making Zod runes available to low level characters.------------------ Incandescence

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Apocalypse Demon Moderator
   
Posts: 4023 From: Mississauga, Ontario Registered: Oct 2001 |
posted 06 January 2002 11:21
Zod runes are useless anyways, I would change their properties to give +1 skills or something and make them even more scarce. Indestructibility is pretty much useless.------------------ God gave me a brain to use but I miserably failed to use it to my advantage

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Maldroth WarLord
  
Posts: 183 From: Bismarck Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 06 January 2002 11:59
actually Zod runes are really useful if you find an etheral version of the high powered unique and you don't want it to break on you. That's about all they are good for.

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Apocalypse Demon Moderator
   
Posts: 4023 From: Mississauga, Ontario Registered: Oct 2001 |
posted 06 January 2002 12:08
Yeah, but how many ethereal uniques are there that are worth socketing a Zod that can be sold on e-bay for 200 dollars.------------------ God gave me a brain to use but I miserably failed to use it to my advantage

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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 06 January 2002 15:58
zod already gives something very high mf and indestructible  ------------------ Nefarius' Secondary Mod Site Nefarius' Primary Mod Site ------------------ XyRAX v21.00 Comming Soon! ------------------ NëƒarIu§ ÖƒƒiçláL [V]oÞÞ¦hg §¡Nce D2C V1.02!!! quote: Gaze into the Oblivion within yourself and you shall become your greatest fears. The escence of leeching is to request before you try

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Methusalem Serf
Posts: 6 From: Goettingen, Germany Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 12 January 2002 05:01
Gambling for runes sounds like a great idea. - Means, I'd like to use it, too.  Could you explain please, how you did it exactly? Thanks.

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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 12 January 2002 06:32
its simple just involves some work (note if some one that never b4 did anything with d2 and modding it wants to do it u will atleast have to read ALL the tutorials out there) since im not gonna explain what to put where until the deepest code part:first creat 33 new items in misc.txt and give them the torch item type make them look as whatever u like give em same sound basicly make a new items but make it so it only has the item type of the torch and nothing else or it wont work, best is to clone one of the unused body parts and change the item type to a torch or add a useless item type in itemtypes.txt now add a rune code to their "tmog" col and make em gamble able make sure that all have the same name BUT not the same code for strings thats the basic in it. ------------------ Nefarius' Secondary Mod Site Nefarius' Primary Mod Site ------------------ XyRAX v21.00 Comming Soon! ------------------ NëƒarIu§ ÖƒƒiçláL [V]oÞÞ¦hg §¡Nce D2C V1.02!!! quote: Gaze into the Oblivion within yourself and you shall become your greatest fears. The escence of leeching is to request before you try

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Methusalem Serf
Posts: 6 From: Goettingen, Germany Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 12 January 2002 07:04
This helps a lot already. Thanks.

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Syntaks WarLord
  
Posts: 231 From: Registered: Sep 2001 |
posted 12 January 2002 10:21
quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Demon: Yeah, but how many ethereal uniques are there that are worth socketing a Zod that can be sold on e-bay for 200 dollars.
????? I thought buying Everquest characters was bad...
------------------ "Overthinking, overanalysing Seperates the body from the mind" -Tool

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Methusalem Serf
Posts: 6 From: Goettingen, Germany Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 12 January 2002 11:29
I`ve got it working.But there is still a problem with the gambling prices. Those depend on your char level and the item level. I´ve added levels to the new items, so that a newbie char can`t get a Zod rune. How can I get the same gambling prices without having to use the same item levels?

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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 12 January 2002 20:51
just give them all a price like 120000 and no n00b char will be able to gamble them------------------ Nefarius' Secondary Mod Site Nefarius' Primary Mod Site ------------------ XyRAX v21.00 Comming Soon! ------------------ NëƒarIu§ ÖƒƒiçláL [V]oÞÞ¦hg §¡Nce D2C V1.02!!! quote: Gaze into the Oblivion within yourself and you shall become your greatest fears. The escence of leeching is to request before you try

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OnSLT Squire

Posts: 40 From: Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 12 January 2002 23:47
I can name two unique's worth socketing with a zod rune, Harlequin Crest and Herald Of Zakarum. The crest has a pitiful 12 DUR, and the Shield 50. If you ever got a zod rune on closed, that's merely a accomplishment right there, most people don't trade off or sell Un-Clean items. I don't know many people who would buy a Unique on e-bay, knowing people cheat on open. If they do, they are suckers. It sounds like a good idea on Closed selling hard to find items, but geez it really is just a game after all. Anyway good luck with the mod, i'm selling my runes on Healing NPC's(touch them they heal you), with a Level Req. So basically it's the same thing, just easier to find, along with Perfect Gems...1-800,000 Gold on runes, and 20,000-100,000 for the Gems. Rejuvs too, Partial 3500, Full 10,000.

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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 13 January 2002 00:03
if i ever get a zod rune on closed i wont waste it to socket something which u can get multiple times if u trade the rune------------------ Nefarius' Secondary Mod Site Nefarius' Primary Mod Site ------------------ XyRAX v21.00 Comming Soon! ------------------ NëƒarIu§ ÖƒƒiçláL [V]oÞÞ¦hg §¡Nce D2C V1.02!!! quote: Gaze into the Oblivion within yourself and you shall become your greatest fears. The escence of leeching is to request before you try

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OnSLT Squire

Posts: 40 From: Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 13 January 2002 00:32
One of my buddies on closed bnet, Used a zod rune on a Ethereal Vampire Gaze. It was a nice item to say the least. You could prolly trade a zod rune for a Cruel Colossus Sword, or a Grandfather, or other Elite Unique. There worth 50 SOJ's on the trading post, I don't know who's got that many, but it's rare enough. If I were to get a zod rune, out of the 600,000 games in act 5 hell, with a 185,000 Probability of it downgrading, I would probably save it, and collect them all, and sell the collection away. Hehe I prolly won't still be playing D2 when that happens, but it's nice to think about.Heck, there's still tons of new Cube Recipes, and RuneWords to be discovered, D2 might be around for awhile.

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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 13 January 2002 05:00
zod has a ratio of 1:184320 and this is only IF the game chooses zod, in runes 17 there is a entry for runes 16 and so on back to runes 1 so the chance is about 1 to quite a few billions, zod is the rarest item in the game much rarer then any of the elite uniques (u dont see as many zods as shakos or grandfathers) if u sell zod alone on ebay you would get more money for it in fact i forgot to say im adding new runes as well that will outstand zod in rarity and will probably be available only thru cube or something with VERY rare ingreeds------------------ Nefarius' Secondary Mod Site Nefarius' Primary Mod Site ------------------ XyRAX v21.00 Comming Soon! ------------------ NëƒarIu§ ÖƒƒiçláL [V]oÞÞ¦hg §¡Nce D2C V1.02!!! quote: Gaze into the Oblivion within yourself and you shall become your greatest fears. The escence of leeching is to request before you try
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KieferHub Lord
 
Posts: 109 From: Germany Registered: Nov 2001 |
posted 13 January 2002 07:29
well its hard to say if it is overpowered.1. not only the stats of the zod rune are importend also the stats of all other high lvl runes which will be much easier to get. 2. what kind of runewords you have done? Are there some realy powerfull once? Always remember that everyone would be able to creat all runewords because it isn't that hard to get 33*500k gold. Year it still takes some time but it is not that hard to get gold... 3. Have you increased the max value of gold the vendors will pay to you? If you have it will be much more easy to get much money ... so you will also get highlevel runes much easier 4. Have you increased the number of gold which is droped by monsters? I personaly think it's very hard to get this balanced. Because you can't build realy cool runewords within your mod because they would be much to easy to get. But on the other hand you can say you build some nice midclass runewords which would enable new players to get an basic equip which isn't that hard to find. I have done it on an other way ... making every runeupgrading working for every rune (3 runes = 1 better rune) and increased the general number of runedrops. Also I changed the countess to be able to drop all rune exept of zod. So you have a much higher prob to find highclass runes but the chance isn't that high like with your gambleing just remember at lvl 70 you got a 3% chance to get a zod rune ... think that is to high ... Also I can add high class runewords without having so much problems within balace because high lvl runes are still not so common. [This message has been edited by KieferHub (edited 13 January 2002).]

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OnSLT Squire

Posts: 40 From: Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 13 January 2002 20:42
I know another great idea with runewords, If the balances with runes seems too overpowered, you could also try making some new Horadric Cube recipes. I've done a recent transmutation. In the original CubeMain.txt file, I saw a recipe for Rare's which caught my eye. 1 Perf Skull+1 Low-lvl Rare+1 SOJ=1 High-Lvl Rare. I've been messing around trying to do the same for unique's. I'm sure you can do it for RuneWord items too. A bit complicated, but Horadric Cube recipes is a nice added spice to ANY mod.

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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 14 January 2002 04:30
its actually pretty hard to get 500k gold in the mod VERY hard the alpha has high sellback but the max on the final will be about 5000 in all difs and most items will sell for alot less------------------ Nefarius' Secondary Mod Site Nefarius' Primary Mod Site ------------------ XyRAX v21.00 Comming Soon! ------------------ NëƒarIu§ ÖƒƒiçláL [V]oÞÞ¦hg §¡Nce D2C V1.02!!! quote: Gaze into the Oblivion within yourself and you shall become your greatest fears. The escence of leeching is to request before you try

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KieferHub Lord
 
Posts: 109 From: Germany Registered: Nov 2001 |
posted 14 January 2002 07:20
well if you earn such less money it's ok ...

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NefariusDX Honorary Warlord
   
Posts: 1392 From: The Hadal Abyss of Eternal Oblivion Registered: Jun 2001 |
posted 14 January 2002 08:14
the mod basicly should totaly make this game more challenging, i think of removing potions from shops and make it only possible to find those------------------ Nefarius' Secondary Mod Site Nefarius' Primary Mod Site ------------------ XyRAX v21.00 Comming Soon! ------------------ NëƒarIu§ ÖƒƒiçláL [V]oÞÞ¦hg §¡Nce D2C V1.02!!! quote: Gaze into the Oblivion within yourself and you shall become your greatest fears. The escence of leeching is to request before you try

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OnSLT Squire

Posts: 40 From: Registered: Jan 2002 |
posted 14 January 2002 14:27
Good idea, I never really bought potions anyway, why pay for em, when you can find them just as easy.

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